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Art, Science, Philosophy and Cognition [message #5675] Mon, 06 December 2010 14:43
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(In reply to the post below, most particularly the last line: "Life imitates art.")

... and there is a broader lesson here that is Wittgensteinian. The idea is that the artist is no different from the philosopher or scientist or whomever, except that each uses different tools. The ends are always the same. The end is what we might call "the picture" (in the head). And that we doctor this picture through the application of different means (logic, theater, math, painting, therapy, pontification, etc.).


This means, of course, that logic and math are not an end in themselves. The true end is understanding. And this, no doubt, is a cognitive function of some sort. A sort of brain nirvana for "epistemology" that one might call "insight." And that, therefore, analyticity is really only a form or kind of thing that art also is, both of which are different ways to feed the same animal. Hence the evolution of philosophy (and culture) from the analytic phase into the phase of meaning being "king."

Always, the goal is to doctor the pictures one has in the head. If one becomes especially keen at seeing the possible pictures and the general dynamic of picture-formulation and shift, one becomes, in essence, a kind of cultural judge or referee. One begins to live outside of his or her culture -- to see the stain of its prejudice, so to speak. Only then has the philosopher taken on a sort of status one finds in the monk. (not Ray, although he is one!).

It is for this reason that the insightful see things in, say, detective magazines that one of ordinary lights would not see. Or that dishes are washed in the bathtub. Unless, of course, the man is actually Kramer. (Try to see all the pictures before you select).


Regards and thanks.

(P.S. -- Sent to Wittrs as well)

Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq.
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Re: Getting to the Semantics Question
Posted by: "Sbkidde@aol.com" Sbkidde@aol.com Sat Dec 4, 2010 12:55 pm (PST)

Peter, others,

"Star Trek: The Motion Picture" (1979) explores the concept of consciousness in a fictional setting.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture
http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt0079945/

V'Ger is an "alien" life form that threatens the lives of all that live on earth. Kirk returns to the command the Enterprise to save life from being destroyed by the alien life form. Who said that Ronald Reagan was the first one to envision the threat of destruction from aliens as a means to unify international cooperation?

Reagan's UN Speech (0:29)
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Ag44dRO8LEA

The Star Trek story tells us that V'Ger is actually Voyager 6, a fictional space


probe that?became lost in space.

Voyager Program
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Voyager_program
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Voyager_1
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Voyager_2

The story further asserts that Voyager 6?acquired so much information that it eventually acquired consciousness? as V'Ger.?

Searle's Chinese Room Argument was published in 1980. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Searle%27s_ Chinese_room

Life imitates art.

Steve K.
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